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Uh-oh, Americans better wipe out their traces of ever being here. Full story, here is an extract:
Dwight Whorley could be sentenced to more than 1,000 years in prison because a jury found him guilty of 74 counts of child pornography charges in U.S. District Court. Those counts include the obscene cartoons and charges of sending and receiving obscene e-mails describing sexual abuse of children.
The new statute is “designed to increase protection against the sexual exploitation of minors,” the U.S. attorney’s office said. It makes it a federal crime to produce, distribute, receive or possess for distribution “obscene drawings, cartoons, sculptures, paintings or any other obscene visual representation of the sexual abuse of children.”
Whorley used a computer at a Virginia Employment Commission office in Richmond on March 30, 2004, to view obscene Japanese anime cartoons that depict female children being forced into sexual intercourse with adult males.
Does this mean you Americans can’t have a copy of Raphael’s The Triumph of Galatea? Not that I’d understand why anyone would want one. But you know… freedom, bitches.
I’m not familiar with your constitution and the whole first amendment thing you always refer to, but exactly how constitutional is this? A man once told me that one man’s freedom ends at the point where it violates another man’s freedom. Where is your freedom now?
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I’m so dead now
1,000 years huh?
Wish I had his collection.
Our freedoms have always been here. We have the freedom to go to jail for having loliporn on our computers. We have the freedom to be put in that jail for an unjustified period of time that does the so-called felon no shred of good. We have the freedom to be removed from the processes of daily life in that jail because we own images that are in no way shape or form harmful to anyone.
We have the freedom to go to Hell in the proverbial Hand Basket mostly because some people in the majority can’t handle having freedom’s of thier own. Mainly the freedom to think like and intelligent person, a thoughtful person. We have the freedom to be nailed under because the same people feel that rules like this will make them somehow feel secure. It’ let’s them safely ignore the fact that most children are sexually abused by someone they know, someone either in thier family or a trusted family friend. We have the freedom to fight oppresion and moral stupidity like this, but hey, we’re stinking pedo’s so who gives a shit about us. We have the freedom to settle between fact and fiction, and the freedom to believe the comfortable lies. We have the freedom to stick our heads firmly and deeply up our asses, because the people that we have selected to lead us are fair and just, right?
We have the freedom of jack shit, and jack, well the fucker never showed to the meeting.
What the fuck? They’re making cartoons about paedophilia illegal now? Riiiight.
Might as well ban cartoons about everything else which is illegal then. You know, like violence and drugs… all the good stuff.
The PROTECT Act of 2003, which the article seems to be talking about, only defines as child pornography an image that “is, or is indistinguishable from, that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct[.]”
It defines indistinguishable as “in that the depiction is such that an ordinary person viewing the depiction would conclude that the depiction is of an actual minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct.” The Act specifically exempts cartoons from the definition: “This definition does not apply to depictions that are drawings, cartoons, sculptures, or paintings depicting minors or adults.”
I can’t imagine anyone mistaking anime lolis for real children. So either the article is wrong about the convictions for cartoon porn, or the man was wrongfully convicted on those particular counts.
Also read Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition.
Holy mother of hell. A possible 1160 sentence. Watching lolicon porn can net you the equalivent of killing another person and even then, that murderer can see the daylights before you.
Well, following the current trend, it won’t be long before the chair is rule a suitable punishment for lolicon lovers.
All i can say is that he was probably overly horny+retarded xD…
from the article:
“Whorley used a computer at a Virginia Employment Commission office in Richmond on March 30, 2004, to view obscene Japanese anime cartoons…..Authorities said he was arrested in April 2004 after he printed out some of the obscene cartoons in the VEC office and someone noticed.”
I mean, who in their right mind would actually look up for some loli porn at an employment office?…then would actually print it out at the same place???…that’s one pitifully desperate old man if you ask me.
It’s not terribly suprising. Certainly looking at loli in a public place is asking for trouble. Somehow I doubt it’s constitutional - additionally, they charged him for e-mails and that also sounds iffy.
Here is the text of the first amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
The legal issue is mostly obscenity. Basically, the courts say that the first amendment does not protect obscenity, but the definition of obscenity is set quite high. One of the parts of the obscenity test is that it must violate community standards, which loli probably does in Virginia but not New York. There is more to it, but it’s a vauge thing. I think it’s likely that at least some of the charges will be thrown out if it goes to a higher court.
That being said, the US has been getting progressivly more puritanical and less free. It’s been especially noticable since Bush came around, though it probably started in the 80’s. The pace has picked up a lot, though. Right now Habeas Corpus is basically dead, and it’s written in the constitution (in my opinion) in a totally unambiguous way. It’s all going downhill.
Before we hyperventilate about how horribly oppressive America has become… bear in mind, what he did was illegal, regardless of what sort of porn he had looked at, because he was doing it in a public place. Your right to look at 6 year old girls being anally raped by… cat demons from Xenon… doesn’t extend to where I have to. Additionally, he’s a repeat offender, previously looking at real kiddy porn. It seems more like they wanted to stick him with enough to put him in jail for good, so they used a (rather weak) law to do it.
Also, a law does not have to be constitutional to be passed. This guy was the first one convicted, meaning that this is the first test of whether it holds up or not. It’s probably not the best one to challenge it with, given his previous history and other offenses.
Or maybe Americans are just dumb. LOL.
Allthogh the punishment isn’t merely for viewing lolicon, it’s also for molesting and being a repeat sexual offender, the law itself is really bizzare. What’s next? Mass arrestings of fourteen year old girls drawing Harry Potter fanart? I’m just waiting for it to happen…
Harry Potter fanart is ok as long as Harry isn’t doing anything indecent with Hermione. Fourteen year old fangirls writing yaoi fanfics might be in for trouble though. Browsed Wikipedia and found this:
Text-only fantasy stories appears to be an euphemism for erotic stories involving beastiality, scat, watersport, rape and child pornography among other things. No matter how gross you might find these things, you must admit it’s kinda ridiculous to make it illegal to write about them.
The feds should have more important things to concentrate on, like furries or people writing erotic transformers fanfics (yes, they do exist).
A question, can I still write the stuff I usually do or is that considered obscene?
Do not visit not4chan during work ?
This is one of those things were the gray area can real big or really small, you just never know. Is looking at some big eyes loli like going down to local elementry and having your way NO. guess in this case and all the rest what consitue art is all in the prosucuter eye’s.
Plus this guy is a dumb don’t look up porn at work.
I wasn’t aware these were children. I assumed they were cartoon characters which could not be harmed because of their lack of brains and nervous systems.
You need to also remember that the guy was actually on probation and wasn’t allowed to watch hentai and/or porn which is the reason he got those problems.
“I can’t imagine anyone mistaking anime lolis for real children.”
Oh it’s quite easy, take anyone with a political office in America, you give them a single picture of anime lolicon and you’ll find yourself behind bars for five years on one picture. Unless you’re a part of a community or your just a guy who likes lolicon, you’re gonna find pictures depicting it to be wrong and unjust.
Lets put it this way, officials don’t care enough to distinguish a fine line between child porn and anime lolicon, if by some stupid chance you were caught with a picture of say… Sakura and Tomoyo lesbian lolicon on your computer (and you know it’s passed through at some point!), enjoy ur aids! Cause you’re going to prison.
Whatever though, as a gamer/anime lover, I’m used to having my rights pissed on by conservative America. Sucks to be him, should have held off on not4chan till after hours.
Think of the innocent trees! While it’s true they lack anything that resembles a peripheral or central nervous system, one cannot overrule the possibility of trees feeling pain. One can only assume they don’t feel pain the way we do.
PROTECT THE TREES! BAN BOOKS!
HOW THE HELL CAN SOMEONE BE SENTENCED TO JAIL WHEN IT’S ART !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anyway why does the american government have a problem with everything .
Well I suppose its just their crappy administraiton lol
Tom aged 17 (British)
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US law sucks!!!
The sad thing is, more than half of american citizens will be more worried that the guy doesn’t live a thousand years and cost tax payers millions of dollars in supporting his life than the fact that if he is convicted our civil liberites might be endagered.
Sentenced for 1000 years…. If that isn’t a typo then wow, jsut wow. For killing someone the average is 25 to life, and being a pedophile nets him a 1000… someone plz tell me its a typo.
Who knows, if he survives to be let out, he’d have one hell of a story to be told, and i’m sure he wouldn’t be a pedophile anymore, probably just hard gay…. sigh.
1000 years…. you can’t be fucking serious
Sweden FTW. This thing woulnd’t happen here.
To the “He was sentenced just for looking at art!” and “1000 years wtf” people:
He wasn’t sentenced just for looking at art, and that’s CERTAINLY not why he’s getting 1000 years. He’s getting 1000 years because he is a repeat offender of OTHER stuff and they want to keep him behind bars. The art was a small part of it, although whether that is because he was on probation and not to look at porn, or because lolicon is illegal, is unclear.
I’ve been running around the internet trying to get more info for hours, and here’s what I’ve got: Lolicon is no more illegal than other porn, but the legality of any porn that cannot successfully claim artistic merit is currently questionable. That is, from what I can tell right now it seems illegal, and yet, I’m not hearing about hundreds of hardcore porn producers getting in trouble, so I must be missing something.
The FBI did raid Max Hardcore’s office and they also shut down that Red Rose Stories site.
Its not really illegal you know, the media just put that in there as a little FYI
Its not really legal either, because of that law section up there
But its not really illegal, because another section says that the art has to be INDISTINGUISHABLE from a real photo
Basically the law contradicts itself, and the whole thing is pretty much up to the jury
of course this wouldn’t have happened if the guy hadnt done this in public and had a history of other shit
Last time I heard about this is that eha lso had real child porn on the computer too. That is dispicable of him and I’m glad they nailed him. Sadly, the fictional images were tossed into this case too. To me, that’s crap. As far as I know no one’s been convicted in the US for having ‘virtual child porn’. Though they have in Canada. Plus Bush wanted to get to changing that here, but he got sidetracked with 9/11 giving him his reason to create his crusade into Iraq.
1000 years??? Come on, this is real? What the fuck. If you want him in for that long, just give him the chair. Don’t waste everyones time and money. Oh wait, I forgot, it would take 1000 years to be on death row. But it is kinda his own fault, I mean what idiot not only prints porn at work, but sends it. I mean, come on. moron
Uhm, lets see… 1k years for doing what the rest of the world does “cough” legally-ish? I mean like, how in Hell’s name can IRL loli contend against Anime Loli? Besides, that kinda sounds like making “cough” offensive “cough” fiction illegal… COME ON! It’s fiction, a work of the imagination (Perverted maybe, but still art, nonetheless). And, at the very least, what’s the difference between Lolicon, Hentai, or any other Anime/Cartoon and Real Life?
Well captain obvious? Duh, Lolicon Anime is made up, fiction, a creation.
Besides, if the Feds are gonna arrest someone over CP, it should be over IRL children, not Anime.
PS: no one lives to be a thousand, making his jail sentence = FAIL
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