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I saw Dateline’s To Catch a Predator IV (torrent here) yesterday. It wasn’t as hilarious as I thought it would be.
Predators scouring the Internet, targeting children for sex: It’s a national problem that Dateline has helped uncover.
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More than 20 Perverted-Justice members are in Ohio and surrounding area chat rooms posing as 12-to-15-year-olds. They’ve set up profiles using pictures of young teens, and posted personal information like age, sex and location. Some of the profiles are on social networking Web sites like MySpace and Teenspot. The decoys from Perverted-Justice are waiting to be instant messaged by a potential predator.
In a matter of seconds, men start hitting on the decoys. One man, screenname “greeneyed121,” even goes so far as to suggest phone sex. He found our 13 year old decoy, “katiedidsings” on MySpace.com.
What the hell are these people thinking? What is their contingency plan? They go to some kid’s house, bring alcohol and hope for some fun in the sack. Then what? Leave and hope that the kid never mentions it to anyone? What a brilliant plan.
Honestly, what kid would invite a complete stranger into his/her house? On a sex date nevertheless. Those who took the bait deserves to be put behind bars because of their stupidity alone.
What is the thing with Mike’s Hard Lemonade and pedophiles? Every freakin’ pedo brought Mike’s Hard Lemonade!
Since I’m too lazy to make a post regarding the poll of the week, I figured I’d make it easy for me and make a poll loosely based on this. Is it ok for a 20-year-old to date a 15-year-old? Of course assuming the 20-year-old’s intent isn’t only to solicit sex with a minor.
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Oh please.. you know the answer. It’s only OK in anime
In real life it’s gross and un-moe.
Shame on you.
Yes. And no. After all, getting married and having kids in your 20s (or even your 30s) is a recent thing. From a purely biological standpoint, if it was crippling to have sex at 15, why would we evolve to be sexually mature at that point? Relationship-wise, it’d prove advantageous for a younger woman to pair up with an older, stronger man.
But that’s not really the point here. In modern society, it’s unlikely that a 20 year old would meet up with a 15 year old in a context that didn’t involve either a sexual agenda or, almost as likely, the older partner taking advantage of the younger one.
15 year old girls don’t have the same sort of defenses that more mature ones do. They can be charmed or manipulated and it is hardly moral to take advantage of someone in that way.
That said, there certainly COULD be instances where the relationship was truly mutual and mature. It’s just highly unlikely. More likely, the older partner can’t deal with people his own age and so goes after younger ‘prey’, so to speak. Often, it’s not malicious in the least, but it’s still not right.
lol 15 is legal in my country.
There’s no reason a 15yo girl couldn’t be mature and have defenses against those wanting to take advantage of her. It wasn’t that long ago that at 15 she’d be married and have kids already, the only reason she won’t now is because society has somehow decided that the vast span of history was wrong and that people are really kids until 18. (Or fill in your country’s magic number for adulthood.)
Girls mature faster mentally than boys anyway, I’d say most 15yo girls are quite capable of having a relationship with a 20yo male. Actually that’d probably be about even for mental maturity (on average, there’ll always be variations). And frankly the 15yo girl’s a lot more likely to run into guys her own age wanting to take advantage of her just for sex than 20yos.
As for that last bit Ersatz Datura, that’s utter bullshit.
A lot of people, of both sexes, prefer younger partners and it has nothing to do with being able to deal with their own age group. If you get down to the biology of it it makes a lot of sense. A younger female’s more likely to survive childbirth than an older one (and to recover faster from it since younger people heal faster), as well as have less defects in her eggs, leading to a healthier child. A younger male’s more likely to produce healthy sperm, thus resulting in a healthier baby.
It can work the other way around of course, a younger female would be better off with an older male because he could protect her and provide for her and her children better. (Historically, although this still applies a lot today.) I’ve yet to figure out an advantage for a younger male to pair up with an older female from a biological standpoint though, there may be one but then again this type of pairing seems fairly rare so maybe there isn’t one.
Finally note this: why is there such a big difference between a 15yo/20yo pairing and a 20yo/25yo pairing? It’s still a five year age difference but a 20yo girl’s only had (if we assume she only starts having “adult” experiences at 18) two years experience in building up her defenses. The guy’s had seven to build up his skills at taking advantage of females of all ages. If you have a problem with one pairing you should have a problem with the other.
There’s also a reason why, you know, that childbirth was the biggest killer of women. Younger women give birth more safely than older women, but not FIFTEEN YEAR OLDS. What kind of younger women are you talking about? Twenty is a whole different story. At fifteen, a woman’s pelvic bones often haven’t fully knitted together yet, making childbirth more dangerous for the woman. Today’s medical technology aside, it’s really safe to be a bit older when giving birth. (I mention this because yes, sex goes along with pregnancy.).
Uh, most fifteen year olds are capable of relationships with twenty year olds? You turn fifteen your freshmen year of high school, so through that to your sophomore year is when you’re fifteen. Looking back - we were incredibly retarded. (No one’s stupider than a high school freshman, unless it’s a college freshman.) Certainly some of us were more mature than others, but at fifteen? No, we mostly just *thought* we were mature.
At twenty, a guy is usually in college. College is much more intense and fast-paced than high school. At least at 20/25, both have entered the realm of working or university. College may not be the real world, but high school much less so. Oh lord, fifteen year olds are fresh from *junior high*. Them dating a university sophomore? X_x
Oh, the “two years experience” thing; if you said that girls mature faster than guys, wouldn’t they also learn faster? Not something I necessarily agree with, just throwing out an argument.
That said: I agree that there can be mature, well-balanced relationships between fifteen-and-twenty year olds. They’re just by far not the majority, and for a reason.
Oh God. Girls may begin puberty sooner than male, but they only achieve it toward 18-20 years.
Then again, another reason girls of 15 years shouldn’t commit themselves with men of 20 years old is because they are still dependent of their parents, they don’t work yet.
Where I live, there is a lot of stupid girls having difficulties in school and thinking the alternative is to date/marry an usually older man then to have many children…
You can guess how it ends, lots of monoparental poor families.(and lots of stepfathers who abuse their daughters too).
Oh, from a biological view, young girls don’t possess the hips, fatness and breasts that draw males. So your point is?
I think it’s ok, but dangerous.
I’m 19 and I’ve dated a 14 yr old. After many months she broke up with me because I was working too much, and then, she told me to meet with her again at her school so we can talk about us being together again. Next think you know she has the cops on me and now I’m charged for “stalking”.
In the end I think it’s ok but only if the girl is mentally mature enough. Obviously the one I dated wasnt.
Um. I met my partner when I was 20.. she had just turned 16. We met in college (she had graduated from high school her “sophmore” year by cramming through a charter school and continued on with her education) and started going out soon after. Five years later, still together, the age difference has never been a problem or noticable. Though I guess it was illegal. But them again, I didn’t find out her age until we had been getting quite close so… by then it didn’t seem to matter much. In fact one of the things that had been so attractive about her from the get-go was how mature she was compared to everyone else I was meeting at school.
Thinking back on it, maybe the fact that she had been working and helping to support her family since 14 has to do with her level of maturity. I know my sense of the real world really kicked in when I was responsible for paying bills, rent, food, school (18).
Anyway, all depends on the people involved.
I only vote yes because I’m really pissed with the pathetic selection of girls my age while a certain number of 20 year old (well, 20ish) have been quite cool. Of course, I’m not in a relationship with one. If I was, I probably wouldn’t be on here fairly obvious reasons.
Then again, there is one who has lolicon….
hell yeah, you know it’s ok.
I’d date a 12-year-old girl ^_^
From a population control point the major reason why women were giving birth at such a young age in the days of yore was because infant mortality was high. Life expectancy was undeniably low thus for a society to be viable economically, and militarily women were married off at a young age.
In regards to the acceptance of it varies from culture to culture on what point a child is no longer an adult. If its illegal don’t do it simple as that, you belong to a society you better follow the rules or move to a place where you can have relations with your desired age bracket. Personally I frown uppn it since more often or not a 15 year old girl is still undergoing biological development and in all liklihood is not mature enough to conduct a serious relationship. At age 20 experience tells me the mastery of hormonal desires is laughable in most cases.
Maturity is not granted at a certain age it is earned through adversity, hardship, and taking a good look at the bitterness of this world. I spent most of my child hood in less affluent neighborhoods the crack house was literally across the street. I vaguely remember young women begging with infants in their arms in the middle of the night. If such a relationship were to proceed I would like to see much more maturity on this 20 year old’s part and have him meet her parents (to gain at least recognition) and take responsiblity if a child is to be born intended or otherwise. Abortion is still ultimately her choice whether you stay a couple is a matter you mutually decide, either way a “hit and run” is a crime of cowardice and immaturity.
Hay guys
*brings Mike’s Hard Lemonade*
I find it sort of funny everybody seems to be assuming that the older one in a 15/20yo relationship would be the guy. Besides, you can go out with a younger person, have mutual romantic feelings even, while respecting his or her virginity (as applicable). Why go into lengthy discussions of the anatomical development of genitalia when dating is at stake?
Also, who says men are attracted to hips, fat and breasts?
I voted yes, but that depends much on the people involved. As a general rule, a _regular_ 15 years old girl shouldn’t date a 20 years old guy. BUT there could be a case of a very mature girl and/or a very responsible guy.
In either case, I think that the parents her should check very carefully who the partner is, and decide if he can be harmful for the girl.
What would you call this guy?
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/84-05022006-650368.html
Not quite that large a gulf, but my girlfriend is 16 and I’m 19. :shrug:
Biologically: Sure. We’re built to be interested in sex starting around or before age 15, and that means have babies. This happens because in the olden days, infant mortality rate was high and we wanted millions of babies to turn into kids to turn into slaves for our farm. Fortunately, times have changed.
Realistically: No. No matter how ready our bodies are at 15 to engage in sexual interactions, or whatever evolution bullshit people want to argue, sex != a relationship. Just because a body is physically mature doesn’t mean the brain is mature, and a person at age 15 still has a developing brain.
At age 15, an age gap of more than 2 years constitutes a big deal; since there is so much development during this period, a lot of growth happens in only one year. Once people are in their 20s, I think the recommended age gap widens a little. A 20 year old and a 24 year old, okay. A 20 year old and a 15 year old? Not okay.
People who read anime blogs will argue to all lengths about this subject, usually in favor of the young/old relationships. Whether I’m being too traditional/uptight or not, I don’t think these relationships are ideal.
if it’s on a plate, a guy will take it. ( or most anyway )
i been to perverted justice, and these decoys are just as much to blame. they intentionally answer in a way that will turn a guy on. if a girl says no, most guys move on.
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