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Lolita love affair scandalises Italy
A 34-year-old Italian man who had sex with a 13-year-old girl has had his sentence cut by a two-thirds because a court decided there was “real love” between the pair.
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His lawyers argued, however, that there was a “deep tenderness” between him and the girl and that he had “fallen head over heels in love” after a sexual encounter in his car. They said the girl had consented to every action.
The court in Vicenza accepted their opinion and sentenced de Pascale to only one year and four months in jail out of a possible 12-year term.
Because of a general amnesty for anyone who receives a sentence of less than three years, de Pascale is unlikely to serve any prison time for his Lolita-esque romance.
Only Phoenix Wright could pull off something like this.
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99 Responses for "Italian court doesn’t care about age of consent"
There were some good comments on digg. Especially this one.
I always wonder in these cases, if the younger party (male or female) were to come forward and say, “I was willing…I agreed to all relations…I knew what I was doing etc” would that be taken into consideration?
I tend to agree with Simonetta Matone, a judge in the article who says that, “Every relationship is a relationship and the real maturity, whether physical or psychological, of the minor must be weighed, with the help of experts.”
According to the EJI (http://www.eji.org/eji/reports/cruelandunusual), they have documented 73 cases in the U.S., where 13 and 14 year-old children have been tried as adults, mostly for violent crimes. So is the message we are trying to send; teenagers understand violence but not sex?
Whether we would like to admit it to ourselves, there are female teenagers who are intentionally sexually active (engaging in sex with no external pressure from others) and intentionally seeking sexual partners (be they younger or older men or women).
I feel there should be a standard test or procedure to gauge all such interactions. It should be able to discern maturity levels, mutual consent, sexual behaviour and understanding between both parties.
The articles states the 13 year-old girl sent a “stream of torrid text messages”. Do we automatically dismiss her actions as “Oh she’s too young! She didn’t know what she was doing?” If she had instead shot and killed someone, would we be saying the same thing?
It’s stories like these that drive home the realization we have a long way to go until we get our heads out of our asses about sex.
in america, age of consent law could give a flying fuck about you or how tender your relationship was, you will most likely get fucked no matter what. even with a mountainside of evidence supporting how consensual the whole thing was youd still wind up frying
Objection!!!! Still I feel bad for the girl :(. 13?! Having full grown male genitalia shoved into her seems kinda mean.
Even I have my limits….
Alright so I don’t, but at least I try to be gentle :3
You know what? That’s what makes maturity so confusing. @_@
That guy has a loli fetish…
Where I live, you’ll get in a hell of a lot of trouble doing that. No matter if the under age child is letting him or not. I would never do that, only if they are over 19 of age…
Nice quotes Beowulf Lee.
I definantly think that the consentual nature of the sex needed to be taken into consideration. I remember how mature I was when I was 13 and how I knew what I was doing when I did things. I think we need to take these things into account when trying someone for sex with someone underage.
TAKE THAT!
Well….when I was 34 years old, my current wife would have been 9. So…the age difference is really not all that remarkable. My wife was not 9, or 13, when we met….she was 19….BUT….okay….I’ll shut up now.
Meiko and Na-chan FOREVER!!!!
Phoenix Wright makes everything better.
Son of a…where can I hire his lawyer?
I do question if the girl fully realises what she’s getting herself into tho.
You have to realize, however, that in italy age of consent is 14 (general case), 13 (if the lover is 16 or less) or 15 (for parents, instructors etc.), so the guy was just 1 year early.
BTW, odd, I am Italian and I live in Italy, yet I never heard about this mess that “scandalised Italy”. *shrug*
Mass media is so ridiculous.
I’m not sure how to compare it, but there is something I’ve been seeing in the country I live.
It’s become more and more common, and just about instantly acceptable for girl of 15 or so to start dating guys in their early 20’s.
Now, the age difference itself isn’t a problem, but just how mature the girl in question is. This may have been one of the few times where we see a court take that into consideration.
Couldn’t then the whole age-of-consent deal be thrown out and let everything be handled on a case by case fashion?
Wow, nice one, I wish ppl would realize that, if a 13yo girl + a far more older man makes love, and they BOTH enjoy it, then there is NO PROBLEM!
“This is a wicked, and pervers generation” already, so making love to a loli (especially to 12yo+) is not a sinful thing TODAY, in 2008.
[In the 1900s years, when the wold was not THIS pervert, it would have been a sinful thing..]
Moreover, most of the 12yo+ girl’s body is 100% mature, and it needs sex, and they start playing with themselves, and start going out to disco, to gort a man to fuck.
(I saw 12yo girls in disco flirting, and kissing far more opder boys, so it IS the reality)
Even this world would not be THIS pervert, ppl should ONLY consider a sinful thing having sex with REAL children, like 10yo- because you bother them with your sexual needs, because they do not feel it yet…but a 12yo+ girl DOES enjoys it, so there is NOT any problem….
What is the name of his lawyer? If you have his number, even better
I have to admit CRV§ADER//KY’s point about the AOC in Italy, but FFS I’m drinking a brandy right now that’s older than my last gf was when I popped her cherry. And FAT NAGAKO, you may have an age difference of 25 years in your relationship, but the age difference was 32 years in my last one. I guess what I’m saying is that numbers mean squat. If you genuinely love eachother then I don’t think a court should have the power to convict.
@CRV§ADER//KY
“age of consent is 14 (general case), 13 (if the lover is 16 or less) or 15 (for PARENTS, instructors etc.)” [emphasis mine]
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Interrogative.
So in Italy its OK to bang you Loli student or DAUGHTER just as long as they are 15???
In Common Law, the age of consent used to be 12.
It was changed in the 19th century because you could walk down the street and literally “buy” a 12 year old virgin for sex in Victorian England.
Aya K, after all my years I wonder if anyone at any age truly has a clear idea what the are getting into at anytime. It seems though she had an idea of what was getting into her which is a related matter.
El Mex, I misread you at first. Thought you said “you felt for the girl” which might have been how it all started in any case…
I have to agree with Angelus and Fat Nagako but not as much as I envy them. More or less on my own and kind of like it/kind of hate it and that goes back to my statement about not knowing what you are getting into even when older. (Wiser? give-me-a-break-!)
After all as I read this I am not seeing any accusation of rape or coercion and she may be more mature between the ears than he is.
TDC, you said that well. Can I steal your summation to claim as my own?! Also it sounds like a fun position… never mind…
I forgot to fully credit myself in above post. See all these years and not a clue!
I just realised something everyone… I’m still underage so that must mean that… I DON’T KNOW WHAT I’M GETTING MYSELF INTO WHEN I DO ANYTHING! Help! I don’t even know what the consequences are of me posting this!
[i]The articles states the 13 year-old girl sent a “stream of torrid text messages”. Do we automatically dismiss her actions as “Oh she’s too young! She didn’t know what she was doing?” If she had instead shot and killed someone, would we be saying the same thing?[/i]
That pretty much sums it up. Also, well said, TDC.
I remember reading once a judge’s pre-sentencing speech in a case where a guy had been convicted of having sex with a 14yo girl (in the UK). He described the criminal acts of so-called “grooming” that the guy had performed, which included such heinous things as befriending the girl, winning her confidence by being kind and sympathetic, giving her presents, takind her out to places, and so on. FOR FUCK’S SAKE, THIS IS WHAT GUYS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO TO GIRLS, ISN’T IT???? As it happened, she was under 16 so the guy got I can’t remember how many years in prison, followed by a lifetime on the run from the neo-nazi vigilantes. How dare the law presume that the girl was too young to understand what was happening.
[i]The articles states the 13 year-old girl sent a “stream of torrid text messages”. Do we automatically dismiss her actions as “Oh she’s too young! She didn’t know what she was doing?”[/i]
Kodomo no Jikan?
Kodomo no Jikan is the best loli anime ever created… this will be the ‘holy (black?) bible’ for lolicons, like us =3
@ Lolicon + Extinction + all
Kodomo no Jikan is the best. And it so much more than it leads on. Anyone know when SaHa is going to freaking finish translating it yet? They left us on chapter 33 and haven’t continued since. I’m dieing to know how this manga ends.
@PrimeSonic
I know! Just last night I was looking everywhere for chapter 34…
The age of consent, like all other age restrictions, is arbitrary and can appear as unfair and draconian in nature. It’s only natural to assume that some people mature faster than others, some probably never mature at all. People don’t magically mature over a day.
In the perfect world where everything is scientifically measurable, age of consent laws would be superfluous. But since maturity isn’t measurable, would you want to put your life in the hands of the whim of a judge or a jury? A maturity assessment could go either way.
The age of consent exists for predictability. Remove it and getting involved with girls in the 16-20 age bracket would be like playing russian roulette.
@ PrimeSonic & Senbon: The next chapter is supposed to come out Feb 22, if I do remember correctly.
@ TDC
I’ve been checking through Baka Updates but does SaHa have it’s own website I’m not aware of where they announce these things?
Anyways, back on topic:
Considering what seems to be the trend now a days where girls, and kids in general, seem to be exploring in the sexual realm much younger than before, I don’t think it would be such a bad idea to have an alternative for the AoC laws.
Pushing the age down wouldn’t do all that much, but I think what should really be taken into account is the testimony of the girl (or boy…yeah right) in question; Like: is the girl the one pressing charges or is it the parents only against the wishes of the “child”?
I could list off a couple more questions a court should consider in these delicate cases because considering how easy it seems to be to get on the Sex Offenders List, which pretty much screws you for life, I’m of the school of thought that these matters so no longer be done in such an arbitrary way.
@abq
Hmm, good point. I suppose that in practice any sort of discretionary scheme would be far too difficult to control anyway. Some countries make the age difference part of the legality equation too, but I definitely wouldn’t like that
The fact that they said that they reduce his sentence because of the FEELINGS between the two (rather than, say, the ability of the girl to consent) is what strikes me as funny.
Since when do courts take such a flimsy thing as ‘love’ so seriously in their judgement?
Still, it’s a good thing…
Well, the judge was a woman.
@abq
Yeah, that’s definantly true. However, I feel like factors (like PrimeSonic said:[i]Pushing the age down wouldn’t do all that much, but I think what should really be taken into account is the testimony of the girl (or boy…yeah right) in question; Like: is the girl the one pressing charges or is it the parents only against the wishes of the “child”?[/i])
should be taken into account. The Sex Offenders List will ruin your life for sure.
@PrimeSonice: Yes, actually. Here it is: http://sahadou.wordpress.com/
@ abq in a (nonlegalistic) sense I have found that getting involved with anyone is Russian Roulette. Just in some cases you find yourself playing it with a clip loading automatic.
And as far as a legal determination of “maturity” I wonder what the definition would be and how many of us would pass no matter what our age.
(hides the happy meal toy he was playing with…)
Maybe there could be a website where people could take maturity tests, and then if you pass you get given the PIN code for your chastity belt…
Chastity?! How dare you say such a foul word on Lolitron Angelus! We all know Loli’s are dirty inside!
Case in point:
http://www.moeside.net/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/KodomonoJikan_DBB/ENG_Kodomo_no_Jikan_02_134.jpg
And also…
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/patachu/Kodomo_no_Jikan_v1-059.png
@El Mex
I’m really sorry, I know I shouldn’t have mentioned that terrible word - my only excuse is that I was sober when I wrote that post.
(Goes and washes his mouth out with loli vaginal secretions)
Now you both have scared The Other Anonymous. I go hide under chair till it all goes away…
“real love?”…..
“It was changed in the 19th century because you could walk down the street and literally “buy” a 12 year old virgin for sex in Victorian England.”
My GOD!
I wish the UK was like that now, all these 11yr old chav tarts getting AIDS, Ghonnorea, pregant and EDS (Exploding Dick Syndrome) is awful. Im gonna catch the next flight to the states, take 100 boxes of condoms and live happy there knowing that my British accent will get the girls flocking.
Anyways, licky Mr Italian for only getting a year, means the girl will just be legal for when he gets out (I think as the italian law is fucked up) so good for him!
This case shows that there is actually love between people, just because the girl is under the AoC doesnt mean she doesnt feel love. I had my first crush at 8, my first sexual experience at 10 and am now an active member of the sex club, a member of the Mile High club (and not the TV show), a member of the Mile Long club (trains), also a good kisser and romantic guy from what I’m told.
Basically, its not just the sex, as most guys I know like to drag girls into bed with sex. A party I was at on monday night say a 20yr old midget girl getting spit-roasted by 2 tall guys, and then done some rectal bleeding all over the sheets. I just hung round with the guys making sure they were OK as loads of them went green from the smoking. Its not always sex, its just preferable…
(P.S, there were only 2 girls at the party by the end of it. One didnt want sex and the midget litterally got “Ripped a new one”.)
I think I’m going to catch the next flight from the UK that I live in, and emigrate to the UK that Stankevitch lives in
Though with that name, maybe he’s talking about the UKraine instead…
BTW, the Italian guy won’t go to jail at all - it says there’s a general amnesty if you get less than 3 years.
Holy Moley! Danny Choo came to Lolitron?! This is such an honor. I gotta go put some clothes on now. ^^.
Ha Ha Angelus, yes my name is Stankevitch, but I am pretty much 100% British, and a little Irish from my gran, but apart from that I have to share my British heritage with these lowdown twats of Yob Britian.
Welcome to the UK, nothing but Chavs, ASBO’s and STDs await
I know it’s not 100% foolproof, but I avoid chavs and ASBOs by always travelling in my V6 automatic car with climate control, DVD sat nav, cruise control, traction control, ABS, ESP, sat-nav and heated/cooled power-adjusted leather seats (yes, even the seats have aircon), and I avoid STDs by always fucking virgins
Good for you, I’m not old enough to drive yet so have to sit with those chavs and ASBO’s on public transport…
@ Angelus: About the fucking only virgins part…Would you happen to be from Africa?
Happy Valentines Day all! (Sorry if you hate it or something)
I am disturbed at the lack of a Valentines Day post from abq. And I was so looking forward to a pic of a Loli dressed up for V-day on the home page ;_;
@TDC: lol I did wonder about what I’d said after I posted it. I was just referring to my personal preferences, not the “I thought it would cure my AIDS” excuse for paedophile rape that is allegedly prevalent in some parts of Africa. I do like girls young and tight, though. My last gf was so tight she couldn’t even use tampons before she met me - I soon fixed that, though
@Angelus: You swear she was not 3 years old this time?
Angelus… You named your right hand “Virgins”? I thought I was the only one…
@Sebon Z , V-E or V-j day?
Sorry guys if I am sounding snappish. Is my birthday and I am allowed at least one boo-boo, no? Though having gotten up seems to cover that. Personally I hope abq is out with stalker girl sharing ice cream sodas at fanciest shop in town. Go out, have fun is my B’day!!! (my bidet???)
Let me be the first to say Happy Birthday ToA! As we get older, the Lolis get younger :3. I however am still in my early 20’s so I am still good >3!
flirt!
Tina Turner a loli to me. (I should be so lucky!)
Liberty, Fraternity,Lolis!
Slogan of the ILF (Intellectual Lords of the Future aka Idiots Liberation Front)
How rude of me!! I forgot to thank you El Mex! appy-polly-loggies!! Sorry and Thanks! (good days to you too! Go out and party for me!)
@ the other anonymous: I guess the only thing I could do to disprove your theory is to send you the photos, and that’s definitely not going to happen. Oh, and “appy-polly-loggies”, that’s from Clockwork Orange. Now there was a book that had some good loli sex in it… (but not the film though, the girls had got a lot older)
@ El Mex: no, street legal 16, which still seems quite young when you’re in your 50’s. Angelus may be a pervert, but he’s a law-abiding pervert…
Well thats better than the German government telling Father’s to stroke their loli’s…. >_< The German lolicon’s would have to move to a new country to get their fix… <__> ….. having withdrawals already!!
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jul/07073008.html
I just looked at that link with the German government thing…
I almost don’t believe it. It seems so unreal that a government of any culture would say something to the effect of “Stroke your baby girl’s pussy, for her own mental health.”
That website on the link… Disgusting religious propaganda website. Anti-abortion, anti-sex, anti-gay. Hell, it’s even anti-Russian. I hate that shit. It makes me want to start bombing churches.
Hmmm… If I ever decide to go on a killing spree, I think I’ll get a hold of some guns and abort some anti-abortionists.
OMFG I must have severely mentally damaged my daughter by not fingering her when I changed her nappies. No wonder she became a lesbian…
Well, it surely sounds stupid, but it’e actually goos for the baby, if you trust the original source(The german Health-booklet). BTW, the prodution of that booklet has been taken back because of heavily protests in some german Organisations. In Switzerlang though, where I live, it’s still made.(Should I be happy?)
@ Name: Well, it’s typically a Western thing to be so against parents touching their children that way. There are some countries in Asia and the Pacific Island areas where it is culturally acceptable to masturbate their children to sleep, or to even put their child’s genitals in their mouth.
Please, my daughter was spoiled enough as is! Include that and she might never have left home (scary thought)!
@the other anonymous: it would set the bar high for boyfriends too - “Sheesh, Joe, if you can’t do it better than Daddy then I’m going home right now”
Now wait just a minute…ToA has a daughter?! :O. This is good news! Something tells me she might be just as perverted as Daddy is. We might just have a real life Kokonoe on our hands. :3
And touching my own children… That seems a bit too selfish to me. As much as I am for pleasuring Lolis, if they arent old enough to enjoy if, or even want it and not regret it later, then I shouldn’t try to make myself feel good at someone elses expense.
@El Mex: “And touching my own children…” is that a confession?
But like you say, you shouldn’t try to do something at someone else’s expense (thus spake Angelus the moral pedophile). Maybe this sort of thing is good rather than bad though. I really want life to have a rewind button now so I can find out…
Rewind button! No way man. What and do that wisdom tooth bit again!
El Mex thee daughter born in 71 so despite being petite I don’t think most would call her loli. Though she has the temper that seems to go with some anime girls… that and an almost evil sense of humor. As inlaying traps on floor just to see if they work as you (well as I) go from front room to back of apartment. “It works!!” she chortled and then turned the light back out…
Angelus that statement made what little hair left go white and then away… is damn cold here, thanx a lot! Geez!
This discussion has gone so off topic xD
@TDC, MASTURBATE your kids to sleep? lmao, how can you go to bed when someone is playing with your genitals?
@Senbon:
Easy, play with theirs too…….
@the other anonymous: you actually know El Mex’s daughter??? Still, even if you do, born in ‘71 is, like you say, hardly loli. My daughter is quite a bit younger than that (early 20’s), and my ex is younger still
Umm, and what statement was it that did such a violence to your remaining hair? I still have most of my hair, btw, I guess lolis don’t generally go for balding guys :p
@Angelus statement about “Joe if you can’t do it better than Daddy”. If you’d met my ex in laws you would understand. Also the daughter dated a Joe ( which lead to conversations on phones overheard by others that really were misunderstood.
Sadly, have never had honor of mating wit… er, MEETing with, yeah, meeting with El Mex’s daughter… Sure she must be fine upstanding person and has probably informed on all of us to authorities. Because of which I will be known as the Other White Mystery Meat in interrogation room.
Angelus, your ex is younger than your daughter? did I read that right? How did you pull that off? Sounds like could be plot for new cartoon on Fox Channels.
@Angelus
Your daughter is in her early twenties and your ex is younger? THAT’S HOT O_O
Was she 18 or something?
I just had to post here, just so that this will be the 69th post…
Anyways, there is no indication that the parents are doing it cuz they find their kids sexy!!
AHHH, dammit. I wanted it to be the 69th!!! Damn you Senbon!!!
So we are down to show me your lolis and I will show you mine it seems.
@TDC, don’t worry just wait and eventually you will be 69! Not as soon as Angelus and I unless someone exposes us to sunlight or the Greg Allman Band…
@the other anonymous & Senbon Zakura, yes, my ex is younger than my daughter, and I’m older than her father. She was 16 when we started our relationship. I like to think someone could make a novel out of it one day
Angelus is my hero.
Wait, what? I have a daughter?! o.o It wasn’t me I tell you! I still have many Loli’s to befriend! >.:3
Oh and btw ToA, give me a shout when you have a granddaughter; if you don’t already have one…. :3 Damn you Angelus! You keep you can’t just hog all the Lolis to yourself! Sharing is Caring. Shamefully my Loli supply is running low
I am running out of candy…
Although the good kind is still in good supply >3
Anywhoo Does abq read any of this by any chance? What is his word in this subject matter that has changed drastically over the past 30 posts.
@El Mex: well, we’re still talking about having sex with lolis, which is right on topic. So, I’m going to throw this one in, which is pretty much on the same subject. It’s from the respected journal “American Psychologist”, and an article by the Crimes Against Children Research Centre at the University of New Hampshire. Their study shows that although Internet safety information suggests that sex offenders are targeting very young children and using violence and deception against their victims, there is no evidence to suggest that this is happening, and that in most cases the “victims” believed they were having a romance. May I refer the members of the jury back to my post number “21″ above…
@TDC: Muhaha.
@Angelus: 16? Hawt.
Yeah, in my experience watching sex offender shows on date line and whatnot, none of the people (If you want to call them that… most of them are very creepy looking imo >_>) ever use deception in the first place. They pretty much say they’re over age from the beginning.
Also, this is totally random, but there’s this sophmore at my school who looks like she’s in 6th grade and it’s sooooooooooooooooooooo hot @_@
Senbon Zakura….What is her name =P. How short is she? Whats her bust! C’mon dude you gotta tell us a little more details. You can’t just throw some imaginary woman at us and expect us to use our brains to throw up some anime related figure!
I guess if I had to use my head, she would look somewhat like Sumomo
http://bj0rn.animeblogger.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/sumomomo0.jpg
There we go ^^ Now thats cuteness.
El Mex loosen up on the purse strings and go buy some good candy. The lolis will follow. Especially candy corn trails I have noticed!
Though those ones tend to mug me for candy leaving body in alleyway to heal, or not.
I expect abq does read this though whether his reaction is amusement or “omg, what have I done!” I have no idea. Probably to much studying and writing for his professors to actually respond as he might wish. Have a couple of lawyers in family and their field is business bit they sure don’t have 9 to 5 hours and I can only imagine that if his am is criminal law (unfortunate term, no?) then I doubt that there is any time that isn’t work time.
@El Mex:
lol, her name’s Piper (Not sure if I spelt that right >_>). She’s around 4′8 and she’s most definantly an A cup. She has long brown hair. She used to be friends with my sister when I was in like 2nd grade (she was in 1st) and one time she just randomly kissed me. I doubt she remembers but yeah… when she became a freshman last year I was like “Oh yeah! I remember her… hot.”. I haven’t spoken to her at all since she got in high school though. My friend keeps on encouraging me to just go up to her and be like, “Hey, wanna have sex?” lmao. I’m sure that’d totally work.
Wait, 4′8? She’s shorter then that. More like 4′6ish…
@S.Z.
Go talk to the girl but DON’T follow your friends advice!!! Not unless you want to reenact some scenes from Love, Hina as in flying kicks to your face, you flying over various buildings looking forward to that hard landing somewhere.
Then again if you are into pain and extensive traction that is another matter.
No, she sounds adorable so go say Hi and let nature take its’ course. Just avoid the alligators…
Well I’m sure you have a plan SeZa. Don’t want to pass up on a golden opportunity like this one! I say take it! Worst case scenario is she might just end up with a lil bundle of joy ^^. Try to imagine that tiny body with a lil tummy :3.
@ToA, yes I might have to loosen up a bit. Wheres my change purse?!
“lil bundle of joy” = 50/50 chance of being a “grow your own loli” kit, especially now we know it’s ok to play with them
Is that you Angelus? o.o You sound a little different. It’s so hard to know who’s who. One time some guy posted a comment with my name D: Call me a noob but, I’d like to know how you put a lil emoticon next to your name oO. Just so I can know whos authentic :3. Like SeZa!
@El Mex & ToA:
Aww, you guys are so supportive! xD
Yeah, I definantly won’t take my friend’s advice, lol. I can’t let a chance like this escape me!
As for people posting under other people’s names… does that happen on here a lot? O.o
I’ve noticed that when I try to respond sometimes, the “Name” section has the name of the last person to post. I thought this was weird, but it must be a bug of some sort.
@El Mex: if I do sound different from time to time it’s only because of the change of blood level in my alcohol stream
Maybe I should get a Gravatar though, to avoid any confusion…
Angelus’ current state: Stone cold fucking sober
Wonder if my spanky new Gravatar will work?
Angelus current state: Mellow-ish (2 glasses of wine and not even lunchtime yet)
It worked allright, now I gotta get me one of those. :3 But what to put? Hmmm the tough choices….
Anyways on a lighter note, I am off to Canada for a week! El Mex is breaking Loli borders and going International! :D. Also I want to try me one of those Garlic Fingers I have heard so much about. Mmmm I could almost taste them….
…The Lolis that is
I’m off to IKEA for a week. Well, hopefully only for a day I suppose, and then the rest of the week assembling things. I bought a nail gun to help with the assembling, it’s FUKKEN SCARY. So scary that a few nights ago I had this weird dream about torturing a loli to death with it :s
(Well, I though I’d better get back to the thread topic of doing illegal things to lolis)
@ Angelus Any port in a storm but Gallo best! However Christian Bros May Wine a fav of mine and a couple of now ex-lolis who drank most of mine last couple of times I was in Vermont.
@ El Mex. Breaking “borders”… Hah, spelling error? Didn’t know it was loli season already in the great White North!
@the other anonymous: South African and Australian wines mainly for me (the Empire, don’t you know, old chap). But lolis drinking alcohol??? How very disturbing. Honestly. I really mean it. I’m sure I never intended my ex to get drunk all those times (goes all misty-eyed)
And as for the loli season, how I wish it began at the Glorious 12th, like grouse. (That’s the 12th year, btw)
Angelus’ current state: Well stoked (half a bottle each of champagne, white wine and red wine, followed by two large Baileys)
aussie wine… Now we know why the empire is gone. Not familiar with anything brewed from there well outside of Paul Hogan’s old TV show but hoping it isn’t filtered through a dingo’s kidneys.
My daughter’s friends and co-conspirators (unindicted) would raid the freezer for vanilla ice cream to make Guiness floats asafter having filched the Stout during a party. Ever put up with 3 early teens half out of their nighties with a bad case of the giggle then upchuck on the dads? Kind of killed any thoughts that one of my friends had. Me, I git the honor of cleaning up after them… Everyone else including the mommy bailed immediately. Also no vanilla left so no Guiness float for me.
Don’t grouse if you haven’t bagged your quota of lolis by the 14th. (oh come on you didn’t think I would let that one pass now did you!?)
@the other anonymous: Now I have visions of myself going loli hunting with a 12 gauge loaded with bean bag rounds, accompanied by my faithful inumimi loli retriever
@ every poster so far
HE IS THE PAWN. He gets off with a loli THAT easy? Its either: LIFE AIN’T FAIR, OR THEY ARE MEANT TO BE. or maybe she enjoys his MANHOOD shoved into her tight self… Maybe miracles DO come true… But seriously, WHY DOES HE BE THE LUCKY ONE?
BTW, this is basically how it’s been working in Japan at the moment as well.
Prefectural laws (except Nagano pref.) place the age of consent at 18, but judges have been frequently giving not guilty verdicts when concluding that couples are in a “serious relationship.” (e.g. especially if the two are engaged)
(There is a separate federal law that punishes for age 13 or under as rape no matter what, though.)
Awesome-kun with awesome lawyer?
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